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 Post subject: Does this annoy you?
PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 11:05AM 
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Just curious if anyone is annoyed by the most recent econnection email?

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We are Missouri S&T or S&T for short

The University realizes our new name is long, so use Missouri S&T for short. But if you’re looking for a three-syllable replacement for UMR, it’s okay to use S&T. It’s easy, it’s new, and just takes a little practice. Why not say MST or MS&T? Because S&T is unique. We’re the only S&T in the nation, it’s a term we can own. Consistency is the key to a successful university identity. Therefore, in all your communications, please use Missouri S&T or S&T. For more information about how to use our name, our logo, and our brand identity, visit http://standards.mst.edu.


Specifically the part at the link that says "NEVER MST, MS&T, MUST, MoS&T or any other abbreviation. MST is acceptable in reference to mst.edu ONLY in email addresses and URLs."

I hope I'm not the only one that gets annoyed when people try to tell me what I can and cannot refer to something as, especially when I didn't support it to begin with. [/rant]

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 11:09AM 
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It's always been this way. Even when the name was UMR there were standards regarding how to refer to the school.

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 11:15AM 
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I was unaware. That is retarded. *sigh* Oh how I fear my ability to assimilate with the corporate environment.

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 11:46AM 
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I still call it UMR. I'm in texas, so they won't know the difference

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 12:15PM 
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I was in the Interfraternity Council before the name change, so I was in the last class to have UMRIFC on our crest. After we ordered the new crests with the name change (became MSTIFC), we got some emails and discussions from Student Life wanting us to change it to S&TIFC, requiring us to spend $50-100 for the patch redesign. We laughed, it didn't happen.


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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 12:36PM 
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And that is what happens when people make assumptions. The book store did the same thing and it didn't turn out as well for them.

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 2:17PM 
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We're a state university, for crying out loud. Sure, we're a top-ranking engineering school in the nation (and THE top-ranking engineering school in the Midwest), but still...
I still think the name should have been changed to Missouri Institute of Technology. Take that MIT.

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 4:46PM 
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Its rather annoying telling the name change story 1000 times to people who have heard of UMR and not S&T

I think the identity at least for the immediate future (5-10 years) our school will be known as UMR that changed its name to.....ah fuck it who cares

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 7:32PM 
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I still call it UMR.

It's not just out of my personal feelings (read: disgust) at the amount of money that was spent for something I consider to be stupid. When I've told others I go to "Missouri S&T," I got blank stares. When I corrected myself and said "UMR" they knew what I meant. *shrug*


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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 8:34PM 
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I agree with the email. If it seems too complicated to remember, just use Texas A&M naming standards - you'd never call it TAM or TxA&M. Always Texas A&M or just A&M. I honestly just say "I go to school in Rolla". Everybody knows what I'm talking about, and I don't hurt the new name by calling is UMR.

While I never agreed with the name change (and still don't), I still feel that this is a good University. I'd hate to do more harm to the Uni by confusing other people with many different names. If you're okay with bashing the school or name, just remember - you're only hurting your degree. Since we couldn't beat the name change, we might as well join it. I think it will be a good thing in the long run (even if it wasn't necessary), so we might as well make the best of it and make sure people learn the new name, and accept it (and its variants).

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PostPosted: Mon 01-11-2010 10:57PM 
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They should just pull a Prince and change it to an unpronounceable symbol.

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Old habits die hard. Much like most people in St. Louis refer to I-64 as highway 40, always have and probably always will...


So true. I think if it wasn't for the rebuilding and all the media coverage "The new I-64" got, half of the people in St. Louis wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about if you were giving them directions and told them to get on I-64.

Perhaps new students to the school will call it S&T just like newcomers to St. Louis will call it I-64, but past and present students will always refer to it as UMR just like myself and every other lifelong St. Louisan will refer to it as Highway 40 as long as we live.

Also, I would strongly recommend that anyone who is looking for a job puts both names on their resume, something like "Missouri S&T (formerly known as University of Missouri-Rolla)" at least for the next few years. My personal experience is that most people in the industry still know it as UMR, the namechange is going to take awhile to catch on out there. Having both on there might sound tacky, but I did it, several people I know did it, and we all got jobs.


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PostPosted: Wed 01-13-2010 2:29PM 
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amd2800barton wrote:
I agree with the email. If it seems too complicated to remember, just use Texas A&M naming standards - you'd never call it TAM or TxA&M. Always Texas A&M or just A&M. I honestly just say "I go to school in Rolla". Everybody knows what I'm talking about, and I don't hurt the new name by calling is UMR.

While I never agreed with the name change (and still don't), I still feel that this is a good University. I'd hate to do more harm to the Uni by confusing other people with many different names. If you're okay with bashing the school or name, just remember - you're only hurting your degree. Since we couldn't beat the name change, we might as well join it. I think it will be a good thing in the long run (even if it wasn't necessary), so we might as well make the best of it and make sure people learn the new name, and accept it (and its variants).


I talked with the registrar at UMSL last semester and when she asked what school I was from I said Rolla and she asked where that was. lol

I just don't agree with them setting standards for what to call something and trying to tell me to follow those standard. Irregardless, I'm going to refer to it as whatever I feel like that day and they can eat me. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Does this annoy you?
PostPosted: Wed 01-13-2010 2:40PM 
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Yeah, standards are dumb.....
*rolling eyes as hard as possible*

Just assimilate. By resisting, you're not "fighting the man" or whatever the fuck you think you're doing; save your fights for something worthwhile.

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PostPosted: Wed 01-13-2010 2:45PM 
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Yeah, standards are dumb.....
*rolling eyes as hard as possible*

Just assimilate. By resisting, you're not "fighting the man" or whatever the fuck you think you're doing; save your fights for something worthwhile.


No. :twisted:

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