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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Tue 03-16-2010 8:04PM 
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I love how you need to be re-added to listservs since the email domain is now @mail.mst.edu.
Also, wtf is with having the @mail.mst.edu? I'm pretty sure it's an understood fact. Either route the mail properly or stop failing and try harder

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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Tue 03-16-2010 8:44PM 
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holy crap i forgot about listservs


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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Tue 03-16-2010 10:29PM 
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I'm wondering if I still have to be connected to the mst wifi network to have the email integrated to my palm pre? idk if anyone else has the phone, but with the old system (@mst.edu) I would have had to be connected to a mst network via wifi whenever I wanted to check my mst email through the phone's email app. I've been able to check my email through the web browser and the outlook web access, but I'm curious that since this is essentially a hotmail account, if that's still necessary. If any of ya'll could shed some light on the matter, I'd appreciate it.

When I try to connect, it essentially comes up with the same message from when I tried to integrate the @mst.edu address. It's asking for a server name, user name, password, encryption, and port #. I'm not sure where to find this info, but it seems like it's the same situation as before. Any words of advice as to where I can find this info?

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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Wed 03-17-2010 6:35AM 
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I connected to a Nexus One off campus with no issues. This email service actually has nothing to do with the mst network, since like you said it's essentially a hotmail account. Anyway...

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External POP setting:
Server name: pod51000.outlook.com
Port: 995
Encryption method: SSL
External IMAP setting:
Server name: pod51000.outlook.com
Port: 993
Encryption method: SSL
External SMTP setting:
Server name: pod51000.outlook.com
Port: 587
Encryption method: TLS

I chose to use Exchange ActiveSync rather than POP/IMAP and used m.outlook.com as the server (SSL enabled, accept all SSL certificates). I usually just have the last week of e-mail pushed on the phone at a time, and with POP/IMAP it kept trying to sync the entire account. Username was your_id_here@mail.mst.edu with the password I set on the Live web interface. No more MST-USERS for a domain, just the username. That username is the same if using POP/IMAP.


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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Wed 03-17-2010 8:50PM 
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That did the trick. Thanks, Patrick

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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Fri 03-19-2010 7:39AM 
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Unless you send things from a listserv(and you are still considered a student) you are ok:

How can I make sure that I can still receive from and post to Listservs?
You'll need to contact the administrator of the Listservs to which you belong and request that they update your email to username@mail.mst.edu, where username is your university account sign-in name (SSO). If you don't update your Listserv information, you will be able to receive from, but not send to, any Listservs you're on. You'll also need to add lists.mst.edu to your Safe Senders list (see question on junk mail filtering for more details).


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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Fri 03-19-2010 11:19AM 
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Yeah, but it sucks for the listserv administrator of every organization. I hate working with the listserv, its so freakin tedious. I'm glad its not my job anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Fri 03-19-2010 7:41PM 
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It really is. It's like whoever wrote the code for the listserv stuff wanted to make it as difficult as possible for the people maintaining it. Not looking forward to this Outlook Live move.

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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Sat 03-27-2010 3:49PM 
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I got a kick out of reading this thread, because this is actually all a repeat of 8 years ago:

See this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=203


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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Sat 03-27-2010 4:49PM 
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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Sat 03-27-2010 8:52PM 
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Ryan wrote:
I got a kick out of reading this thread, because this is actually all a repeat of 8 years ago:

See this thread:
http://seek42.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=203



That's progress for ya.

Change is painful, but as long as things are changing for the better, there is light at the end of the tunnel (i.e. minermail from Unix, because I've used that global address book more times than I can count for several of the UM system universities). This looks like a change straight sideways, or maybe a couple of toes forward. Google looks like it would have been a much better choice, but who knows? Maybe one of MS Live's obscure and not-yet-explored features (IM chat standard across ALL students, and eventually professors) will become a vital backbone, especially since all the UM system is staying consistent in their choice of servers.

Don't get me wrong, MS has loads of crappy coding, and doesn't really care about established web standards, but maybe if some of the S&T graduates worked for MS and pushed out all the KU and Mizzou CS students, this wouldn't be the case. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Sun 03-28-2010 9:47AM 
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ShadowCat38 wrote:
Ryan wrote:
I got a kick out of reading this thread, because this is actually all a repeat of 8 years ago:

See this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=203



That's progress for ya.

Change is painful, but as long as things are changing for the better, there is light at the end of the tunnel (i.e. minermail from Unix, because I've used that global address book more times than I can count for several of the UM system universities). This looks like a change straight sideways, or maybe a couple of toes forward. Google looks like it would have been a much better choice, but who knows? Maybe one of MS Live's obscure and not-yet-explored features (IM chat standard across ALL students, and eventually professors) will become a vital backbone, especially since all the UM system is staying consistent in their choice of servers.

Don't get me wrong, MS has loads of crappy coding, and doesn't really care about established web standards, but maybe if some of the S&T graduates worked for MS and pushed out all the KU and Mizzou CS students, this wouldn't be the case. :twisted:


I am going to go ahead and stand up for KU and KState CS grads. Most all of the ones I work with know their stuff. MU on the other hand is a different story. Don't think I have ever seen a CS grad from there. Or at least Garmin doesn't hire any. /offtopic

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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Mon 03-29-2010 5:44AM 
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cmptrnrd16 wrote:

I am going to go ahead and stand up for KU and KState CS grads. Most all of the ones I work with know their stuff. MU on the other hand is a different story. Don't think I have ever seen a CS grad from there. Or at least Garmin doesn't hire any. /offtopic



That's fine. My stab was more at because it is Kansas rather than actual merit. You almost certainly know more about their actual programs than I do. If they actually know what they are doing, then that is great.

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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Mon 03-29-2010 11:10AM 
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I just made the transistion yesterday and it wasn't too difficult. I actually prefer the outlook live web interface to minermail's. Should make searching much much easier. Also I can now connect to my campus email without setting up a VPN when I am out of town, which is worth a LOT of gripe for me.

The biggest issue for me was transferring all of my contacts, notes, calendars, and emails. I ended up going the route of exporting everything to their own .pst files and reimporting them. But since I'm on my parents 256k DSL connection it took HOURS to get my emails uploaded. IT's solution of importing using the email accounts prompt in options did not work for me.

I think now that I've made the transition it seems fairly painless from here on out.... so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Outlook Live
PostPosted: Mon 03-29-2010 12:54PM 
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dar9q7 wrote:
Also I can now connect to my campus email without setting up a VPN when I am out of town,

wait... why were you using a VPN to connect to campus email?

i have a direct exchange connection from offcampus, no VPN required, plus minermail is webbased and works everywhere...

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