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 Post subject: Hurricane Gustav
PostPosted: Mon 09-01-2008 1:36PM 
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So, it looks like Gustav died down quite a bit before making landfall. New Orleans may live to see another day. Unless something crazy happens, the New Orleans mayor is probably going to catch all kinds of flak for forcing an evacuation when it now looks unnecessary. It was the right move, but people are stupid, and I anticipate it to show in the next couple of days. We shall see...

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Gustav
PostPosted: Mon 09-01-2008 1:55PM 
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wouldn't surprise me... and it's kinda obvious they're not the smartest, city below sea level, i'd be expecting to have a flood... but everyone acts surprised when it happens. Another thing, I know it really sucks when people lose their houses and stuff to disasters, but at the same time, people should be prepared for things like that the best way they can be. For example, if you live in an earthquake-prone area, you should build your home with that in mind. If you live in a huge forest, better be ready for a forest fire. If you live in the midwest, be ready for a tornado now and then. And if you live on the coast.. you're obviously going to have a hurricane now and then, that's part of the risk you take when choosing to live in that area. Again, it's really bad when people lose everything from these types of things, and I think we should help them out. But I also think in some cases it is taken too far. Some dumbass builds a big house on the coast and it gets washed away every couple years.. That should be his own responsibility, not taxpayers. How do you distinguish between that and someone that really needs the help though?


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Gustav
PostPosted: Mon 09-01-2008 4:45PM 
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Agreed - it's not the government's fault (or responsibility) to provide your home owner's insurance for you, or to make natural disasters just go away if you don't have that insurance.

What IS the governments fault is saying "this is a safe zone - come here and you'll be fine - we promise we'll take care of you" (superdome etc) and then totally NOT doing that. If you are going to promise to do that then do it right - but the people should not EXPECT it to be done. There were a number of fuckups by the government before/after/during katrina, some perceived some real.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Gustav
PostPosted: Wed 09-03-2008 11:55AM 
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I doubt mayor Nagin will catch any flak for anything like that. He piddled around before Katrina while other mayors in other states were calling FEMA and the National Guard for help, and ended up just barricading himself in a hotel with a month's worth of steak and several generators, while letting the buses that could have been used for evacuation just sit there and eventually get flooded. Then, he decreed that there would be no guns in the city, commanded cops to take guns from little old ladies and law-abiding families who were protecting not only their own homes but the homes of their neighbors who had evacuated. Then he blamed everything on Bush, and the media went with it.

No, he won't catch any flak.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Gustav
PostPosted: Wed 09-03-2008 12:08PM 
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yeah, it appears Katrina is still fresh in everyone's mind so the media is praising the evacuation and all even though it didn't turn out to be as serious as it might have been. I'm glad to see this happening... more the attitude people should take, rather than bitch about being inconvenienced when your safety could be at risk.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Gustav
PostPosted: Mon 09-08-2008 7:48PM 
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wouldn't surprise me... and it's kinda obvious they're not the smartest, city below sea level, i'd be expecting to have a flood... but everyone acts surprised when it happens. Another thing, I know it really sucks when people lose their houses and stuff to disasters, but at the same time, people should be prepared for things like that the best way they can be. For example, if you live in an earthquake-prone area, you should build your home with that in mind. If you live in a huge forest, better be ready for a forest fire. If you live in the midwest, be ready for a tornado now and then. And if you live on the coast.. you're obviously going to have a hurricane now and then, that's part of the risk you take when choosing to live in that area. Again, it's really bad when people lose everything from these types of things, and I think we should help them out. But I also think in some cases it is taken too far. Some dumbass builds a big house on the coast and it gets washed away every couple years.. That should be his own responsibility, not taxpayers. How do you distinguish between that and someone that really needs the help though?


It really depends on whether the Federal Government has said that living there is dangerous or safe. If you move into a city, pay taxes for police, you expect to not be shot at every year. I think the same goes for a hurricane. You expect that your taxes will go towards protecting you from a hurricane/letting you know if you need to head out.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Gustav
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I'm not sure we pay taxes to protect us from acts of god.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Gustav
PostPosted: Tue 09-09-2008 7:50AM 
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I'm not sure we pay taxes to protect us from completely forseeable and well-known frequent acts of god.

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