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 Post subject: What SSD should I buy?
PostPosted: Sun 04-03-2011 6:12PM 
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So I built this computer not too long ago but was going to wait on the ocz vertex 3 and/or new intels to come out. Well, they are just starting to come out and I'm not really interested in paying $300 for a 120gb drive.

So of the lesser drives, what drives should I be looking at? Or talk me into getting one of the new drives.

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 Post subject: Re: What SSD should I buy?
PostPosted: Mon 04-04-2011 2:14AM 
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820227578

Pro's: Fast, doesn't take up SATA slot or require power cable
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 Post subject: Re: What SSD should I buy?
PostPosted: Mon 04-04-2011 6:36AM 
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Awesome, didn't even look at those drives. I had a gift card anyway to newegg, so I ordered it

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 Post subject: Re: What SSD should I buy?
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Well.. I was going to say wait a bit, because the next generation of drives are coming soon.. Talk of actually using a good chuck of the SATA-III bandwidth..

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/inte ... -vertex-3/

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/17/ocz- ... gle-drive/

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PostPosted: Tue 04-05-2011 2:09AM 
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blitzvergnugen wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/17/ocz-vertex-3-pro-hits-the-test-bench-sets-the-new-single-drive/

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this $584 drive

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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2011 9:37AM 
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Cylord wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/intels-ssd-510-reviewed-measures-up-well-against-vertex-3/ wrote:
this $584 drive
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Absolute fail Cylord.... FTFY

And... it's only $2.34/GB. The drive LB just bought is $2.41/GB, on SALE... so cheaper, and faster. (Newegg listed LB's drive at 470MB/s R/W... the OCZ does 550 read, 500 write..)

But that drive's expensive for SSD's you say? Ok. Let's look at another: Intel X-25M same brand, previous gen. So they've ironed all the kinks of manufacturing and are producing on economies of scale. It's still $1.90/GB. So, give it a few months and the 510 will probably drop hugely in price. I expect OCZ to undercut Intel, so that will probably be more "reasonable."

but the bottom line is.. it's an SSD... of course it's going to be expensive

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PostPosted: Thu 04-07-2011 3:58PM 
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Cylord wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/intels-ssd-510-reviewed-measures-up-well-against-vertex-3/ wrote:
this $584 drive
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Absolute fail Cylord.... FTFY

And... it's only $2.34/GB. The drive LB just bought is $2.41/GB, on SALE... so cheaper, and faster. (Newegg listed LB's drive at 470MB/s R/W... the OCZ does 550 read, 500 write..)

But that drive's expensive for SSD's you say? Ok. Let's look at another: Intel X-25M same brand, previous gen. So they've ironed all the kinks of manufacturing and are producing on economies of scale. It's still $1.90/GB. So, give it a few months and the 510 will probably drop hugely in price. I expect OCZ to undercut Intel, so that will probably be more "reasonable."

but the bottom line is.. it's an SSD... of course it's going to be expensive
tl;dr

also: absolute fail blitzverwhatever... i didn't say anything above.


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PostPosted: Thu 04-07-2011 4:48PM 
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Cylord wrote:
blitzvergnugen wrote:
Cylord wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/intels-ssd-510-reviewed-measures-up-well-against-vertex-3/ wrote:
this $584 drive
:shock:
Absolute fail Cylord.... FTFY

And... it's only $2.34/GB. The drive LB just bought is $2.41/GB, on SALE... so cheaper, and faster. (Newegg listed LB's drive at 470MB/s R/W... the OCZ does 550 read, 500 write..)

But that drive's expensive for SSD's you say? Ok. Let's look at another: Intel X-25M same brand, previous gen. So they've ironed all the kinks of manufacturing and are producing on economies of scale. It's still $1.90/GB. So, give it a few months and the 510 will probably drop hugely in price. I expect OCZ to undercut Intel, so that will probably be more "reasonable."

but the bottom line is.. it's an SSD... of course it's going to be expensive
tl;dr

also: absolute fail blitzverwhatever... i didn't say anything above.


You quoted the wrong article. And then I went on a rant that was mostly for myself, because I too will be buying a SSD sometime this year.

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PostPosted: Mon 05-02-2011 12:10AM 
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LostBoyz wrote:
I'm not really interested in paying $300 for a 120gb drive.

vertex 3 (not vertex 3 pro, two different drives [interestingly the cheaper vertex 3 is faster]) 120gb models are coming in at $240-250... about the same as what i just bought my crucial C300 SATAIII for a few months ago.

Cylord wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820227578

Pro's: Fast, doesn't take up SATA slot or require power cable
Con's: Still $300 (was slightly cheaper when I bought it after Thanksgiving)


i hope you kept your receipt... 1st generation revodrives offer NO TRIM, NO Garbage Collection. Read: Fill it up once (perform 120 gb of writes) and your performance goes down the shitter.
wait for the vertex 3 or get a Crucial C300 if you can't wait. Only problem is the write speed is mediocre.

Also intel's drives are so retardedly expensive its a wonder anyone buys them at all... great they are SLC's but apparently no one cares about that now especially since ocz has once and for all bridged the read/write speed gap

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PostPosted: Mon 05-02-2011 4:02AM 
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i hope you kept your receipt... 1st generation revodrives offer NO TRIM, NO Garbage Collection. Read: Fill it up once (perform 120 gb of writes) and your performance goes down the shitter.

Yes, that was a problem back when you could buy 1st gen revo's. I, of course, did not.

Newer revo's still can't do TRIM, but that point is mostly moot since the newer SandForce controller used will do automatic GC during idle times (e.g. hit Start -> Log Off and go to bed; wake up and the SF-1200 controller has automagically mimicked TRIM for you).


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PostPosted: Mon 05-02-2011 10:25AM 
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I, of course, did not.

Newer revo's still can't do TRIM, but that point is mostly moot since the newer SandForce controller used will do automatic GC during idle times


Well the link you posted was to the first generation revodrive... so if you bought that one, you got one that has no GC. If LostBoyz bought that one, he got one with no garbage collection.
The second generation revodrives are labelled X2

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I got the x2

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I got the x2

did you get the $410 100gb model or the $470 160gb model?

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PostPosted: Tue 05-03-2011 10:41PM 
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zeroluck wrote:
so if you bought that one, you got one that has no GC
Negatory; both the original and X2 Revo's have idle time garbage collection (one of many sources - I did a lot of reading before I bought, and then promptly lost all of the links). It's handled by the onboard SF-1200 controller, a component both generations share.

The issue wasn't with the first "generation" Revo; it was with the first version of that generation. The problem was discovered quite quickly and they immediately stopped making the first boards and started a new batch with the fix incorporated; there are posts on OCZ's forums about identifying your board's revision and, if you happened to get one of the old ones, how to contact OCZ to get a replacement.


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 Post subject: Re: What SSD should I buy?
PostPosted: Tue 05-03-2011 11:17PM 
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very good! if i had've known this I probably would have gone for one after all

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