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 Post subject: Maynard James Keenan has found Jesus? HAHAHA
PostPosted: Tue 04-05-2005 9:53PM 
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I assume this is an April Fool's joke, but if not I will be really pissed. I've briefly googled on this, and no one seems to know yet if it's for real or not. If not, well... the last couple of albums haven't had too much anti-Jesus rhetoric on them (not counting APC), so maybe they'll still record. Regardless, we just gotta wait for more info...

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PostPosted: Tue 04-05-2005 10:07PM 
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I bet he found a wooden jesus in his cracker jack box


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PostPosted: Tue 04-05-2005 10:24PM 
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I laugh in the general direction of Tool fans everywhere... not that I don't like Tool (or Tool fans), it's just that I find this ridiculously ironic.

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PostPosted: Tue 04-05-2005 10:29PM 
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eh, it might be some guy named jesus. either way just like everything with MJK it is not what it seems

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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 1:54AM 
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I just cant see how MJK can drop everything he believes in, and turn to religion like this.

Song: Opiate
Quote #1: "choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you"
Interpretation: You cant make decisions for yourself, so let someone else make them for you (god/church)

Quote #2: "if you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me, now dont you judge or question"
Interpretation: In emoting "god" or "jesus" Maynard is saying, cast aside your right to think, that will lead you to salvation

Song: Jerk-Off
Quote #1: "consequences dictate, course of action, it doesnt matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught"
Interpretation: you do what's right in fear of the consequences of doing what's wrong.

Song: Judith
Quote #1: " you're such an inspiration for ways that i will never ever choose to be, oh so many ways for me to show you how your savior has abandoned you"
Interpretation: none necesary

Background: From what i've heard, MJK grew up in a baptist home, and was beaten by his stepfather, also MJK was enrolled in West Point, but later dropped out, while at west point, they had a common term "tool" they used to refer to people who blindly followed the rules, reguardless of the reasoning behind them.

I feel that due to MJK's childhood expierences, it would be safe to assume that he connected his stepfather's actions to christianity as an act of being a "tool", hell just listen to the track Disgustipated off of the Undertow CD, he openly mocks preachers with his alias "Reverend Maynard". So I just really cant see how Maynard has "found Jesus" without openly calling himself a "tool"

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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 9:50AM 
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I want this to be an April Fools joke, but no one's come out yet and said for sure it was, which worries me because now there's a chance this is real.

Given his music, it seems unlikley, but Head, the guitarist of Korn, found jesus and is now preaching to save 50 Cent's soul from going to hell. Not like Korn is openly anti-religion or anything, but this is a band that has a song that goes "y'all want a single say fuck that. fuck that fuck that" over and over.


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true but that did create the awesome t-shirt "Korn gave god Hed"

but we will see, i am pumped as hell to see a new tool cd, so i hope this is not real.

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What would be so bad if it were? It would be awfully hard to see eye to eye with any kind of religion whose only ambassador was a man full of abuse and hate, but maybe love broke through. He's probably been needing to deal with the pain caused by his stepfather his whole life, and now maybe he has. Maybe there's been forgiveness and healing. It's disgustingly selfish to be mad that a man got well just because you liked him better when he was sick. Can't you just forget about the music for a moment and start feeling better for him as a person? This is when he needs your support the most, so stop being so hateful. Be joyful, because that's what he's needed all along.

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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 11:32AM 
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whoa, first of all what the fuck are you talking about. I think you need an experience that throws you to actually research countless religions and cults like MJK has. His "sickness"? dont even start talking like that

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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 11:39AM 
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Its an April fools joke...they do one every year. This one just happens to be poking fun of Head and his recent actions.

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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 11:42AM 
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midgey wrote:
Its an April fools joke...they do one every year. This one just happens to be poking fun of Head and his recent actions.


Yes, but as April Fools gets further and further behind us, and Manyard hasn't come out and said "April Fools!" I wonder if it is in fact real


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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 11:51AM 
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true, but they've done one on their website for the last 5/6 years...

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heretic^ wrote:
I just cant see how MJK can drop everything he believes in, and turn to religion like this.

Song: Opiate
Quote #1: "choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you"
Interpretation: You cant make decisions for yourself, so let someone else make them for you (god/church)

Quote #2: "if you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me, now dont you judge or question"
Interpretation: In emoting "god" or "jesus" Maynard is saying, cast aside your right to think, that will lead you to salvation

Song: Jerk-Off
Quote #1: "consequences dictate, course of action, it doesnt matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught"
Interpretation: you do what's right in fear of the consequences of doing what's wrong.

Song: Judith
Quote #1: " you're such an inspiration for ways that i will never ever choose to be, oh so many ways for me to show you how your savior has abandoned you"
Interpretation: none necesary

Background: From what i've heard, MJK grew up in a baptist home, and was beaten by his stepfather, also MJK was enrolled in West Point, but later dropped out, while at west point, they had a common term "tool" they used to refer to people who blindly followed the rules, reguardless of the reasoning behind them.

I feel that due to MJK's childhood expierences, it would be safe to assume that he connected his stepfather's actions to christianity as an act of being a "tool", hell just listen to the track Disgustipated off of the Undertow CD, he openly mocks preachers with his alias "Reverend Maynard". So I just really cant see how Maynard has "found Jesus" without openly calling himself a "tool"


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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 2:01PM 
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heretic^ wrote:
I just cant see how MJK can drop everything he believes in, and turn to religion like this.

Maybe he now thinks that what he was believing was wrong. And I don't remember hearing anything about "Maynard has found Catholicism." Religion and faith are not interchangeable.

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PostPosted: Wed 04-06-2005 2:43PM 
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good call, but neither religion or faith were stated by maynard

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