I was recently reminded of this, and figured I could share it here. At the end of Attack of the Clones, Dooku drops a 20-ton boulder on Anakin and Obi-Wan, which makes Yoda pause and use all his Jedi power to stop its fall, letting Dooku get away with the plans for the Death Star.

Why did Yoda not just use 2% of his energy to move Anakin and Obi-Wan out of the way? I mean, I know it's an intense situation and it can be hard to think clearly, but Yoda's a frickin' Jedi Master. I thought of this right after that scene; you'd think he would think of it right away. Oh well, I guess there'd be no second trilogy then Thoughts?

Yoda must have been fuckin stoned. Like... really stoned.

It takes a tremendous amout of concentration to focus the force. However, Mr. "Size matters not" could have ripped Dooku's ship apart and grabbed the tower thingy with no problems whatsoever. But if that happened Anakin couldn't kill Dooku in the next movie.

Eh, maybe he's like Neo. He only has physical control over inanimate objects.

Oh well, Star Wars sucks anyway.

fixed. the original trilogy was awesome

Or, a more simple idea still, throw your blasted lightsabre at the ship's forward viewport, THEN deal with the stone pillar. Gosh darn it, would ya look at that, now it can't maintain cabin pressure! Looks like Dooku's stuck here!

Those attuned to the force are harder to effect with the force. Anakin and Obi-won are fairly strong, so it would take more power (in theory) to try to force (heh, I made a pun) the two of them to move rather than holding up and moving the large beam.

As for Dooku's ships, Yoda feels that life is worth more. Dooku can be recaught/stopped later, but two more dead Jedi would be a greater loss then and there considering how thin they were in ranks (they got ass-rammed in the Arena by the droid army along with those giant fat-ass flying things). Stop the bad guy, or save two of your friends and fellow fighters?

Another thing: To fight as he did, Yoda had to expend some of his Force power (is like physical strength, it gets used up, you get weaker, then it builds back up to full) in order to fight Dooku. Remember all that bouncing around he did and moving all super speed? Ya, that isn't natural, even for him. He had to use the Force to do that. If you notice, he drops his lightsaber and uses both hands to hold up/move that pillar. He probably couldn't of held onto Dooku's ship -and- held up the pillar at the same time.

These are just theories based on what I've seen in the movies, experienced in the games, and even read in some of the books (though I only really read the ones with Han or Chewie in them)

You, and any other Star Wars fan, are doing yourself a disservice if you do not read Timothy Zahn's sequels to movies 4,5,6. This trilogy, entitled The Thrawn Trilogy, is truly phenomenol and should definately be read. Far better than the Han Solo trilogy, imo.

[quote="Sczroer"]As for Dooku's ships, Yoda feels that life is worth more. Dooku can be recaught/stopped later...[quote]

yeah, but apparently he CAN'T be stopped later as we are all aware of the outcome of the story!


also i have a lot less respect for jedis in these movies than i did in the origional ones. they are all a punch of fucking new age hippie home remedy conjurers. "whine the force this whine the force that". i mean it's cool and all to have the force and fling shit around and read peoples' minds and whatnot, but the SECOND you use it for "evil" you are A BAD JEDI!!! and we don't need jedi-rome telling us what to do. and what's with the republic's army? a bunch of clones? that's a whole morality issue right there. why can't they just recruit/draft like any normal soverign republic?

that's why the only cool people in the star wars universe are the "rebellion" 4-6. they aren't part of some gay congress that can't pass shit for the life of them and they aren't trying to conquer the universe, they (for the most part) don't have some 6th sense that helps them but is also constnatly nagging them to seek out the truth waa waa they're just kickass fighter pilots and mercenarys who one day banded together and decided "hey, i don't make that much money i don't want 10% of my paycheck going to the 'intergalactic empire' fuck them we're succeding"

1. The reason they frown on using the force for evil is because if you do it's very easy to use it again and again and again. Greed is still as much of a problem for them as it is for everyone else, they are just trained to ignore it. The Sith (Dark Jedi) use greed, and that's why there can never be more than 2. They kept killing each other.

2. They have an army of clones b/c it would take at least a year to recruit and train an army of that size.

3. Yes, the "Rebellion" people were way cooler, but when the republic won, they rebuilt the Republic, and in rather short order, beauracracy began.

4. The sepratist movement began because Palpatine is a political badass, and Dooku is a wonderful tool who listened to the Emperor-to-be, and conned the whole galaxy into a war, which, using as an excuse, gives Palpatine full executive powers, which he uses to dissolve the senate, and become the Emperor. That's the shorts story of how the empire was born.

Agreed, by far the best piece of Star Wars literature out there. Especially the End of the second book. Just beautiful stuff.

if you watch episode 2, you see that the jedi only use the force when someone is about to die, or for meaningless tasks.

Ex1: Anakin flies to stop Dooku from killing Obi-Wan, but doesnt use any force push, or anything else through the rest of the fight.
Ex2: Anakin does however use the force to play with a little ball in Padme's room, and to cut her pear on Naboo.
Ex3: Obi-wan uses the Jedi Mind Trick on hte death sticks guy, but not on Jango Fett.
Ex4: After Obi-wan falls off the landing platform on Kamino, he uses the force to jump to the platform and open the door, but he doesnt use the force at all during his fight with Jango Fett, except to retrieve his dropped light sabre.


Also, the jedi are too good for their own good.
Ex1: Yoda should have used a Force Choke, Force Crush, Force Hold on Dooku during the fight to keep him from moving at all.
Ex2: Mace Windu should have killed Dooku on the balcony, rather than attempt to hold Jango hostage. Mace was able to mask his precence while approaching, he should have run Dooku through.
Ex3: The jedi should have killed Jar Jar.


Fortunately for the Jedi, their enimies are just dumb.
Ex1: After Dooku slashed Anikin's arm off, he should have beheaded him, unless he had orders from Sidious to keep him alive
Ex2: Zam Weesle shot the droid that Obi-wan was hanging from...she should have shot him.
Ex3: Jango Fett should has shot a poison dart into Anakin's and Obi-wan's necks as well.
Ex4: In the Cantina, Zam should have assumed a different form, thats what changlings do when they are being followed.

The problem with the pre-trilogy, is that everyone already knows where its going, so its not as exciting.

If I had to pick one thing i would change to make episode 2 better, i would show Anakin ripping through the Sand People camp, killing everything in sight. They should even have shown him cutting down a five year old kid. That would have gretly improved my movie experience

The Force can only be used successfully on weak minded individuals. And those who are force adept have inherent resistances to others usage of force. Regardless, you people have too much time on your hands.

Which is why Yoda couldn't Force Hold, Crush, or Choke Dooku. Also, two of those are sith powers, and that'd be like the pope going to an Ozzy commerical. Play Jedi Academy and try to choke another jedi for a long period of time. They easily just push you away and break it.

Mad Duck's bullet on the reason why they used the clones is a bit off. Dooku had ordered the army, under the guidence of Palpatine, years and years ago, before he went poof and dropped from the radar. Is the reason why Palpatine, in the general assembly, called for the use of them, even before Obi-won returned and told them about the clones. He knew that he could take control of the army and crush any/all who were against him.

Nsrbb5, if they were a good republic, Palpatine wouldn't be at the head. Mad Duck was right, though, about the whole using powers for evil thingie. It's like a drug. Or a MMO. You get addicted and it's more fun to use the evil powers than not to use them.

For those who would like to see how Yoda SHOULD have behaved during that battle i refer you to this:

http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/microseries/chapter/23.html

Click on the 420x480 thingy to watch.