I very much enjoyed the last atheist thread and would like to know if anyone is interested in creating a group. The group would be based on discussion of atheist beleifs and religious beliefs and why we believe or why we dont. Im open to suggestion's if anyone has opinions on the matter.

Is the question asking "Would you join if you are an atheist?" or "Would you join no matter what 'religion' you are?" (let's not get into an -is athiesm a religion or not- argument, that's not what I was looking for, only used 'religion' for lack of vocab at the moment). Because, you know, your results will be skewed.

I would not join an atheist organization. I would, however, join an agnostic organization. I just don't think that anyone can truly know for sure that there is absolutely no possibility of there being a god.

Dead people can know.

I don't think that anyone can truly know for sure that there is absolutely no possibility of there being invisible pink unicorns.

I would not, and I consider myself an atheist. I graduated in 2003, though, so my opinion may not be what you're looking for.

If I were 19 again and back in my "OMFG Christianity sux0rs" stage I might be down with it, but now I just don't care. As long as people leave me alone I will leave them alone, and I've never come across a Christian or a Jewish person who would not leave me alone if I asked.

If they are invisible, how do you know they're pink?

To be honest, I don't really quite understand an atheist organization. I mean I understand the whole "<insert religion name here>s have an organization why can't we?" but isn't an atheist religion the lack of religion? And so... any practice of religion in an atheist belief (oxymoron I know) be... sacrilege? I know there is some debate on whether or not atheism is a religion, but you can't seriously expect to hold a thorough conversation without addressing this very important part.

I consider atheism a belief - the belief in logic and reason.

You'd have to see Gamerdonkey's sig- he's got faith that they are pink, and logically they're invisible because no one can see them!

Well, in light of the discussion on the previous thread, it might be better to form a group for rationality and whatnot. I would join an atheist group since I'm proud to be atheist but people would not take it well imo, and the former would be more open and friendly I think. Those are my two cents

calcninja

From my experience, you are going to get alot of agnostic people or confused people to say that they are atheist. It is very annoying to talk to somebody about religion and have them tell you how they grew up christian, swtiched to budasims, and are now atheists. Whereas in reality they are just agnostic, and dont want to say that.

I don't think they'd be practicing atheism. It would be just like any other organization where people who hold similar beliefs would like to get together and hang out. I dobut every time a Christian group meets, they're practicing their religion. Most people in the group probably just want to interact with each other.

so if i called it an agnostic group it would be better?

I think you're getting it all wrong. Atheists don't know absolutely that there is no god. I'd argue that it's very hard for anyone to say that absolutely know a lot of things. Take the trivial examples out of the equation (I absolutely know that there are no square circles in the universe, just by definition) and you're left with lots of things that people assume are true and all evidence known points to the fact that it is true, but it can't possibly be known beyond a doubt that it is true.

To illustrate what I mean, just read the above example of the invisible pink unicorns. No one can possibly know without a doubt that they don't exist, but it's a fair assumption that they probably don't exist. Why? There's been absolutely no evidence that they do exist. Because of this lack of evidence, I merely assume they don't exist. Take that same line of reasoning to the existence of God (or a god). I'd venture to guess that most atheists would argue that there's really no "evidence" to support that God exists (some would say the entire universe itself, but that's a trivial case). I'd venture to guess that most atheists refuse to take that "leap of faith" (faith being the key word there) and proclaiming absolute knowledge through faith (as opposed to reason).

How does this apply to agnostics? Personally, I don't really see that there's that much difference between agnostics and atheists. While atheist claim there is no god, agnostics claim that there is a super power out there, it just doesn't interfere with the universe in any way...ever. My question is then, who cares? Is there really a difference between there being no god and a god who does absolutely nothing? But some agnostics will argue that point and that's where the division starts. And that's where I will stop.