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 Post subject: Name Change Protest
PostPosted: Wed 04-04-2007 9:47AM 
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According to namechange.umr.edu:

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The curators will discuss the name change proposal first during a meeting of the External Affairs Committee. That committee meets from 1-2:30 p.m. Thursday, April 5, in St. Pat’s Ballroom B&C. The External Affairs Committee will then report its recommendations on the proposal during the Board of Curators meeting, which begins at 9 a.m. Friday, April 6.


A protest, say, from 12-1 Thursday in front of Havener with the usual signs and catchy chant would be the most likely thing to get the Board to realize that alot of us don't like the new name idea. Anybody interested?


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PostPosted: Wed 04-04-2007 10:28AM 
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I don't think you understand. I would bet $100 (if I could know for sure) that Carnster and Co has already spoken with the B of C. Why on Earth else would he have INSISTED that University and Missouri stay in a name that is "differentiating" us from the U of M system? He went with the possible names for a reason, and there is no doubt in my mind that that reason was those were the only choices the B of C would greenlight. He had his mind made up long before he ever mentioned it to any of us.

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but something tells me if you could actually know ALL the facts, you would just call me right.....

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You would need at least a large group to have them feel the impact of your message.

01-05: Bunch of students with nothing better to do
06-10: Opinion can go either way, possibly viewed as publicity stunt
11-15: They take notice of your message and begin to understand
16-20: Realize that this issue may cause a mob & Miner writes a bad article
21-25: Mob protest & Media Coverage (not Miner)
25+ : All prior qualities + community awareness and protest develops

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Twilyte wrote:
You would need at least a large group to have them feel the impact of your message.

01-05: Bunch of students with nothing better to do
06-10: Opinion can go either way, possibly viewed as publicity stunt
11-15: They take notice of your message and begin to understand
16-20: Realize that this issue may cause a mob & Miner writes a bad article
21-25: Mob protest & Media Coverage (not Miner)
25+ : All prior qualities + community awareness and protest develops


I am thinking your numbers are much to small. I would wager that 2x those at least, if not 3x or 4x....

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I reserve the right to organize a pro name change protest. Not because I support the name change (I don't give a shit one way or the other), but because (1) I'm an asshole like that and (2) I want to see two angry mobs fight it out about an issue that they really have no say in.

And for those of you think a protest is really going to make a difference, lets look at this logically. Regardless of what you think of him, the Chancellor is not stupid, he has already spoken to the Board of Curators about the name change to see if they would support it. If the Chancellor didn't think there was support for a name change, he wouldn't have continued to push for one, and frankly I think that at this point its too late to make a difference one way or the other, especially since the students seem to be the only people opposed to the name change.

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theshed wrote:
I reserve the right to organize a pro name change protest. Not because I support the name change (I don't give a shit one way or the other), but because (1) I'm an asshole like that and (2) I want to see two angry mobs fight it out about an issue that they really have no say in.

And for those of you think a protest is really going to make a difference, lets look at this logically. Regardless of what you think of him, the Chancellor is not stupid, he has already spoken to the Board of Curators about the name change to see if they would support it. If the Chancellor didn't think there was support for a name change, he wouldn't have continued to push for one, and frankly I think that at this point its too late to make a difference one way or the other, especially since the students seem to be the only people opposed to the name change.


According to a poorly worded survey conducted by the pro-namechange group... :roll:

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Why not go do a quick informal survey. Just randomly ask students around campus if they're in favor of the name change. If you're random about it, you'd probably get a better sample than the official survey got. You could also probably extrapolate it to the population of students (stat 217 is whispering in my ear).

The official survey probably wasn't truly random - people that prefer the name change may be more proactive to responding to surveys, or people that are against it just get pissed and don't fill out the survey. So do your own and stick it to them.


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PostPosted: Wed 04-04-2007 12:19PM 
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That survey made it nearly impossible to just state that you were not in favor of a namechange.


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PostPosted: Wed 04-04-2007 12:30PM 
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Oh, I too am completely certain that Carney has the Board in his pocket. But regardless of this, I still believe the name change is completely worthless, and as such I want to voice this opinion. I also figure that of all the ways that might get the Board to rethink (but probably won't), a protest is the most powerful. The possibility of a very unhappy (perhaps rioting) campus makes satisfying Carney pale in comparison. This, of course, would only happen if a whole lot of people show up.

I'll make a facebook event for it later, so the word can spread quick. I'll also be there with a can of spray paint for making signs. Bring your own cardboard/other sign material. I sure hope people show up so I don't look like an ass.

I'll also offer one brand new UMR t-shirt to the person with the catchiest slogan to chant.


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PostPosted: Wed 04-04-2007 12:41PM 
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jthxv wrote:
theshed wrote:
And for those of you think a protest is really going to make a difference, lets look at this logically. Regardless of what you think of him, the Chancellor is not stupid, he has already spoken to the Board of Curators about the name change to see if they would support it. If the Chancellor didn't think there was support for a name change, he wouldn't have continued to push for one, and frankly I think that at this point its too late to make a difference one way or the other, especially since the students seem to be the only people opposed to the name change.


According to a poorly worded survey conducted by the pro-namechange group... :roll:

OK, a more correct re-wording would be "... especially since a part of the student body and some alumni seem to be the only people voicing opposition to the name change." I don't really think that the opinon of current students matters. You're here, they've got your money, and (they think that) they've got enough alumni that either don't care or support the new name that they can afford to not have your donations as an alumni. There are still alumni that won't donate because the name of the school is UMR not MSM.
The point is that they (the administration, chancellor, board of curators, etc.) dont care what you think about or have to say about the name change, they are going to do it either way, and there is very little chance that a protest will help, especially since the Curators are going straight from one committee meeting to another.

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PostPosted: Wed 04-04-2007 12:43PM 
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http://umr.facebook.com/event.php?eid=2271491152

there's the event.


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