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 Post subject: Email Forwarding Canceled
PostPosted: Fri 05-04-2007 11:33AM 
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"all e-mail forwarding will cease on May 31, even for those who have it currently set up." WTF now I have to use some shitty miner mail program. Anybody know a way to circumvent this?

http://themissouriminer.com/content/view/1123/49/

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PostPosted: Fri 05-04-2007 11:59AM 
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Set up an outlook rule to forward any incoming e-mail to another address.


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way to do that with thunderbird?

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dannyboyfx wrote:
way to do that with thunderbird?


Switch to outlook since you're going to forward it somewhere else anyway?

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do it from outlook on a campus computer.


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PostPosted: Fri 05-04-2007 2:27PM 
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According to Karl Lutzen, a member of the UMR IT team, this change will bring UMR in to alignment with the University of Missouri system policy. Under the Sunshine Law, e-mail is considered official business documents which, since UMR is a public institution, must be provided to anyone who requests copies of them. This change will allow for easier compliance with that policy.


I don't get it. Sunshine law, so I can demand copies of ALL of my professors emails? How does this matter anyway? I have my mail forwarded to Gmail, but there is a copy left in minermail....

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PostPosted: Fri 05-04-2007 3:15PM 
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Assuming POP3 access remains, GMail has a new feature that allows you to fetch all the mail from your inbox via POP3 and put it in your gmail box. You can leave it on the server or have it delete it. I'm using it right now, and it rocks. Even better, you can set it up to reply as if you are mailing from your umr.edu address. I no longer have to deal with my inbox filling up, and I can search through all my mail in one place. It's amazing.


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I don't get it. Sunshine law, so I can demand copies of ALL of my professors emails? How does this matter anyway? I have my mail forwarded to Gmail, but there is a copy left in minermail....


Wait, can the public demand copies of my emails then? I know that email isn't a secure medium and I shouldn't expect complete privacy, but I didn't know that joe blow could just show up and demand all of my emails without a warrant.

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PostPosted: Fri 05-04-2007 6:20PM 
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Under the Sunshine Law, e-mail is considered official business documents
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Summary of Missouri Sunshine Law

Missouri’s commitment to openness in government is clearly stated in Section 610.011 of the Sunshine Law: “It is the public policy of this state that meetings, records, votes, actions, and deliberations of public governmental bodies be open to the public unless otherwise provided by law. Sections 610.010 to 610.200 shall be liberally construed and their exceptions strictly construed to promote this public policy.”

The law sets out the specific instances when a meeting, record or vote may be closed, while stressing these exceptions are to be strictly interpreted to promote the public policy of openness.

Public meetings, including meetings conducted by telephone, Internet or other electronic means, are to be held at reasonably convenient times and must be accessible to the public. Meetings should be held in facilities that are large enough to accommodate anticipated attendance by the public and accessible to persons with disabilities.
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what the f**k dose this have to do with student email

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trekeyus wrote:
Under the Sunshine Law, e-mail is considered official business documents
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Summary of Missouri Sunshine Law

Missouri’s commitment to openness in government is clearly stated in Section 610.011 of the Sunshine Law: “It is the public policy of this state that meetings, records, votes, actions, and deliberations of public governmental bodies be open to the public unless otherwise provided by law. Sections 610.010 to 610.200 shall be liberally construed and their exceptions strictly construed to promote this public policy.”

The law sets out the specific instances when a meeting, record or vote may be closed, while stressing these exceptions are to be strictly interpreted to promote the public policy of openness.

Public meetings, including meetings conducted by telephone, Internet or other electronic means, are to be held at reasonably convenient times and must be accessible to the public. Meetings should be held in facilities that are large enough to accommodate anticipated attendance by the public and accessible to persons with disabilities.
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what the f**k dose this have to do with student email


UMR is a state government run institution?


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http://www.ago.mo.gov/sunshinelaw/sunshinelaw.htm
See the section regarding "Emails among members of public bodies"
Basically any email sent to/from a UMR address that went to two or more people falls under the provisions of the Sunshine Law. However, when someone files a Sunshine request, only the information directly relating to the request can be released, you are responsible for what is released (so if you don't give out everything, you can get charged for obstructing justice or something), and all emails have to be sent through the UM System Custodian of Records who (in accordance with FERPA) removes all personal information including names and email addresses. And before someone asks, I know this because of the whole the Miner trying to sue the University thing.

Also, you only have to worry about the email forwarding not working if you were using the service that used to be here. And the easiest way to get around it is to login to minermail though the web interface or Outlook on a campus computer and just make a rule that forwards all of your email to another account.

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If they are required to keep a copy of all communications what happens when i have to delete a message because of the pitifully small quota?

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Has anyone tried to set up a rule in Outlook web access, i cant seem to find it on the left hand side where it should be.

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PostPosted: Fri 05-04-2007 8:42PM 
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i used outlook in the past and it caused problems with minermail...

i use thunderbird now and i love it... it's easier to organize and deal with.

You can map it really easy for either program tho. It's on the helpdesk website.

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mwsgh6 wrote:
Has anyone tried to set up a rule in Outlook web access, i cant seem to find it on the left hand side where it should be.


Assuming the keep pop3 access, you could continue to use any e-mail client that you would like, if you insist on using a different e-mail address completely here are some instructions.

There are a lot of things they tried to build into the activex version of outlook web access, but they don't work very well, or are cumbersome to use.

-Your best bet, is to open microsoft outlook (not minermail) from a campus computer (it is already set up for you).
-Go up to tools then down to rules and alerts
-create new rule
-start from a blank rule
-select "check messages when they arrive"
-Next
-if you want conditions, select them, for all, just click next again
-select "permanetly delete it" and "for it to people or distribution list"
-in the lower payne click on " people or distribution list"
-type in your other e-mail address
-click ok
-clcik finish

*if you don't get your rules setup exactly how you want them, they will act screwy, I'm not responsible for your dumba$$ losing e-mails*


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