The right to bear arms

In the hands of a criminal, any weapon is dangerous. Also, a stupid parent can buy toy guns for their child and leave the real one cleverly hidden in a desk. Cleverly like loaded, right? “Right to bear arms,” how is that confusing? The Missouri Miner published an article about gun control recently that missed the point completely. You have the right to bear arms as a United States citizen and as a citizen you shall not be governed but instead have others work for you. While Nazism as an example is an extreme, taking away firearms can give both criminals and the government (how ironic) more power than they are entitled to.
A criminal with any weapon is a mistake, but they can get weapons anyway. In the same way illegal drugs are sold, criminals can get any weapon they want. Who knows, a criminal might steel something. Keep in mind that guns are not the only form of weaponry, and you can ban until your hearts desire. Eventually, there would be a ban on the world’s rocks. Good luck picking all of those up. The point is that you can ban guns, accelerants, matches, and knives, then, you will have barely have enough to protect yourself from a thief, a terrorist, or even our own government.
In addition, the United States citizens are some of the best armed in the world. I find that comforting. What intelligent terrorist group would attack Texas? As a terrorist would you walk down the street and get shot by the people gardening? This, is an actual form of “Homeland security”: March on our streets and get riddled with holes by our citizens before our military has to be there.
Government is corrupt. Checks and Balances start with you. The only reason why your vote counts is because we currently employ our government. As a defenseless nation, the government does not have to listen. Right after they deprive certain amendments, there is nothing wrong with some inalienable rights.
Now the facts: In every state where the concealed weapons law has passed, crime rate has dropped. It makes sense, would you be likely to rob someone if you thought his or her gun was bigger than yours?
The Missouri Miner really should post articles by more politically knowledgeable people. Parents who leave firearms in accessible places around the house with children of any age are not smart enough to handle a firearm themselves. School shootings happen because someone did not say something before the event. At my high school there was a student who was planning the same thing, and I’m still alive today because I did not just laugh it off.

Since murders are just gonna murder people anyway why not make murder legal?

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My thoughts exactly on the right to bear arms

You are, inadvertantly, noting the flaw in thought with gun control.

Murder is what is bad, so that's where the line should be drawn in reference to our laws. Murder is what is trying to be fought, so laws should enforce penalties on murder. That idea is much different than that compelling gun control (that being, murder is bad, and so the things that enable murder must be legislated against).

i sent in a letter to the editor addressing one of the articles on gun control. we shall see if it is printed. if not, then it goes in the recycle bin. if it is printed, you can all read it.

but no, you aren't the only one who was disturbed at the massive amount of misinformation in that article.

Here's an idea -
Why don't you submit it to the Miner???
If send it to miner@umr.edu and have your name an student number in the email, you will most likely get it printed.
There is already one responce to that article in the upcoming paper.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. The crime rate has dropped nationwide. It's dropped just as much in states with concealed carry as without.

The problem I have with the pro-gun lobby is they are the first to proclaim "keep guns out of the hands of criminals, the insane, and the irresponsible" but when you go and try to enfoce laws to do just that they bitch incessently about their rights being taken away. I've no problem with letting law abiding citizens keep their guns, but there are reasonable ways to keep them away from people who shouldn't have them.

My opinion: Keep background checks on all firearm purchases. Close the gun show loophole. Let the assault weapons ban stay dead. Confiscate and destroy all guns used in crime unless one can prove that it was stolen from his/her lawful possession.

here's an idea: raise the price of bullets and leave the guns alone.

Sounds good to me.

I'm a gun owner and hunter, but i can't see why anyone opposes background checks like the NRA does. Unless you are a criminal you shouldn't have a thing to worry about. The gun show loophole needs to be closed (BTW, i'm planning on going to the one in the multi-useless bldg. this weekend, maybe i can find a cheap SKS...), that is how the Columbine killers got some of their weapons.

Now, i know laws don't prevent criminals from getting weapons, but they do make it harder. And i see nothing wrong with that. A convicted felon shouldn't be able to go buy a gun at the friendly neighborhood wal mart.

Weapons just create fear, and the cycle of fear just spreads. Saying specifically to people that it's okay to have concealed weapons is just going to make them want to go buy a gun just to do that.

Last I heard, Canada doesn't have any gun control laws, except for the fact that they have to take safety courses and be certified, and their crime rate involving weapons is insanely lower compared to the U.S.

The so-called "gunshow loophole" is merely the fact that private citizens sell guns without running a background check. It shouldn't matter if I sell my gun to someone at my house or at a gunshow. Most people don't know that that "loophole" is just citizens privately selling guns.




Yeah, ok. Lets see, they have to have a permit to buy any guns. They cannot have ANY magazines over 10 rounds, except for 22's. 5 rounds is the limit for semi-auto rifles. "All" of their guns are registered (yeah, right, I'm sure every hunter went out of his way to obey a stupid law and register his hunting rifle).

Some will say this proves that gun control works. On the other hand, in Switzerland every home (that has someone in the militia in it, IE, a male 18-31) has a full-auto rifle and government provided ammo. The army sells full-auto, cannons, and other forbidden in the US items to the public with only an easily obtained license (compared to the US equivalent which is a pain in the arse to get). They have 6 million citizens, and 600,000 machine guns in the country. So, in one country where registration of all guns is mandatory, a license is required to own guns, and there are various banned classes of guns, crime rate is low. On the other hand....in a country where there are hundreds of thousands of legally owned machine guns (on the order of one per 10 citizens) the crime rate....is still amazingly low. And here in the US, it is not. The crime doesn't have to do with the gun laws, it has mostly to do with ideals and culture. I'm not saying the guns and laws have nothing to do with it however. If I were a criminal and knew that there was at least a 1 in 10 chance that the home I was breaking into had a machine gun in it and ammo for it, I don't think I'd be breaking into a hell of a lot of houses.

Irrelevant. Most burglars look for homes where everyone is out (work, school, etc). They don't want a confrontation with the occupants, armed or not. They want to get the good stuff and get gone. Knowing that 1/10 houses has a gun might lure, not repel, a burglar.

So unless one plans on staying home 24/7, it's unlikely that a gun in a house would stop a burglary.

A convicted felon CANNOT go to Walmart and buy a gun. Never could. Not sure you even know what the gunshow loophole is. Not sure I do either for that matter. It's pretty much a fancy emotion riser for the Brady bunch. If you buy a gun from a dealer, you have to go through the background check just as you would if you bought at a gunshop. Private party sales are different. It's no different that buying from someone at their residence.

What's being a hunter have to do with the 2nd Amendment? It doesn't concern hunting. The 2nd Amendment deals with citizens right to own weapons to protect against governmental tyranny. Nothing more, nothing less. That being said, I don't think most people understand that and even if they do, probably don't have the stones to follow it through.

Whether you know it or not, probably not, you are part of the unorganized militia. As such, you are required to own a weapon in common use of the day. That would mean most of us are required to own fully automatic assault weapons, ie M16A2/M4, etc. This has been largely and wrongly usurped by modern laws, but if our predecessors had stood up to it, we would all own so-called machine guns. BTW, does anyone reading this know the difference between a machine gun and an assault weapon? Or, do you know the difference between an assault weapon and say an AR15? Let me know if you do. Most people don't. The so-called Assault Weapons Ban had absolutely nothing to do with assault weapons.

Links:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/t ... 10&sec=311
http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode ... -000-.html

Yes, i know a convicted felon can't go into wal mart and buy a gun. Because of background checks. Before the background check you had to fill out a stupid form that asked questions like "are you a fugitive from the law?". Very easy to lie and buy a gun before background checks, which the NRA opposed.

As far as the gun show loophole, it allows people to walk into a gun show and buy a gun, no questions asked. No background check, no proof of ID, no nothing. I went with one of my friends to a gun show and he bought a 12 guage shotgun without showing any ID. I believe (not sure on this) the loophole allows gun show transactions to be treated as a private party sale, which as you said, is perfectly legal with no background check or anything. I've sold guns to friends like that before...just handed over the cash and made the transaction. No law was broken.

Difference between a assult rifle and a machine gun? A machine gun shoots fully automatically, meaning that the gun keeps firing as long as you hold down the trigger. A legal assult rifle only fires once for one pull of the trigger. Fully automatic machine guns have been illegal since the '30's unless you want to go through lots of paperwork and get a special permit.
Assult weapons banned by the AWB had things like folding stocks, flash suppressors, and high capacity magazines. All banned weapons were semi automatic, none were machine guns. You should also know that i am against the AWB, although i'm not going to cry myself to sleep if its renewed.

I know the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting. I felt like mentioning that i am a hunter to go with why i am a gun owner....to hunt!