I question whether or not I should bring this up, but here we go. I'm not sure how many of you have been seeing the coverage of this story, but it has went from a story about a mom who was outraged shortly after losing her son, to now being something where both sides are begining to show signs of insanity. From most accounts, the craziness began with mrs. sheehan who while apparently started off as a mother who wanted to talk with Bush about the loss of her son (which happened on one occasion already) to someone who has now been embraced by the left of the left and now has either wittingly or perhaps unwittingly become a tool of the wacky uber-lib left. Now the repubs have made there share of faux paux which unfortunately include the absolutely insane thought by the fat drug user limbaugh who was astounded by her outrage at the loss of her son and apparently even quipped, something to the effect, "I mean we all lose things." The point of this all being that now something that should have been the mourning of the loss of a loved one has now turned into a once normal woman now seeming crazy and spouting references to israel occupation as the equivalent of us/iraq occupation and essentially saying that we as a country have been just killing people to further our own selfish goals since the time of the indian wars. She has now fallen into the crazy Ward Churchill category and will be dismissed by the bulk of the American public. Whatever her message once was is now and will forever be lost in the noise. To all those who would have their message be heard, seek the sensible center, the fringe is full of wackos who's opinions are easily dismissed. It is for this reason that I constatnly struggle to find any point valid from people like Paul Krugman, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Micheal Savage, Micheal Moore, etc. Despite them possibly making a decent point on an individual topic, their overwhelming bias makes it hard for me and the majority of mainstream america to find validity in any statement.

I feel terrible for Mrs. Sheehan, and for what she has lost. I have two cousins with whom I am very close, and who I miss very much. There is something that I know about them, and my family knows about them, that is they would not want us to be making a stink about them, if something happened to one of 'em. My entire family would be sick with grief if we did lose one of them, or god forbid both of them, but there has to be a line drawn between grief and the inability to cope. Mrs. Sheehan got a meeting with the President of the United States once, something that most americans will never have, sure it wasn't a good meeting, she just lost her son, but for the President to be required to meet with her again, weakens him, what about the other 1859 soldiers families who have lost someone, the President cannot possibly meet with them all. I ahve said it before and I will say it again, the President is not the only person involved with us going to Iraq, and Afganistan all of your senators keep voting on more war funding, and they voted to take the action to go to war. I will admit I am a conservative, but I don't walk in lockstep with the President's policy, and I am not defending him nor relieving him of responsiblity for making a call on some bad intel, it is certainly his fault for not going back for more info, or insisting on better intel, what is done is done now and we all have to live with that, weather you like it or not.


*Note this is not aimed at FIB, but to all the people who are going to argue we are in an unjust war*

Well said. That is why it is important to find facts as close to the source as possible, and make your own judgments or decisions accordingly.

I have read that the Bushies (by those I mean Bush supporters in general, not necessarily the ones on his meal ticket) made up the quote from Sheehan on Israel/Palestine.

It is sad that she lost her son, but she is dishonoring his memory by turning his death into a media circus. If she has gotten what she wanted, then she should go home. She only hurts her cause by continuing this spectacle.

Ms. Sheehan's family has basically disavowed themselves from what she is doing. They do not agree with her and say she is dishonoring her son's memory. It is not what her son wanted. Her husband has filed for divorce over her actions.

I told my parents and my wife the other day that if anything happened to me, they were NOT to do what she is doing. They wouldn't because they know how I feel about it.

This is not true. It may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but their marriage was in dire straits before she went to Crawford.

She was probably acting like a loon before this.

Statistically speaking, if a child dies the parents are much more likely to get a divorce.

EDIT: Well, this seems like a hotly debated statistic. I believe it's more likely true than not, but I don't have much proof one way or the other.

I'd agree with you there. The whole problem from what I have read about the statistic is that something like 31% of all child deaths are at the hands of one of the parents, one of the stats I looked at also included suicide as the cause of death, and a huge number of determinable reasons for suicide was family problems. So Its flawed, but on a whole I agree with you zkissane.

Funny, I never read that in the news paper. I just heard about this loon over and over and over...

Casey Sheehan not only volunteered - after the Iraq war started, he re-enlisted. On top of that, the mission he was killed on was a very risky rescue mission to get out some guys who were pinned down. As you might guess, Casey volunteered for that mission as well.

Yep, he sure thought that America wasn't worth dying for. And I'm sure he's very happy that his mother is pissing on his grave.

I was just mentioning that I had never even heard that side of the story. I guess it shouldn't surprise me though.

Here's another parent, whom I guess is jumping on the bandwagon---

Dear President Bush and America,

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak my mind.

I lost my job this past year. When Clinton was president, I ran a prosperous enterprise. But in the last year, we had to close our operations.

Far worse, I lost two of my sons in Bush's evil war in Iraq. They gave their lives for their country, and for what? My pain of losing my sons is indescribable. While it is trivial next to the loss of my sons, I regret to say that I also lost my homes. I
simply have nothing left.

I am a senior citizen with various medical problems. I'm not in a position where I can begin a new career. I was reduced to the point where I was homeless, all because of President Bush. And when the authorities found me, did they have any compassion for my
misfortune and ailments? No, I was arrested.

If I had any money left, I would donate it to the Democratic Party. If Al Gore had been elected in 2000, I guarantee you, I would still have a job, a home, and most importantly, my sons!



Regards,





























Saddam Hussein