Did anyone else read this? I saw the title, and cringed. I then read the article, and i shit you not, i threw up in my mouth about 10 minutes after that. Related? Who knows.

Anyway, in the article the columnist says, 'people walking down the sidewalk have just as much of a right to not walk through a cloud of smoke as the people walking and smoking. Therefore, we should ban smoking on the UMR campus.'

Seriously? I mean...really? Who let this person write in the paper? Obviously because one person pisses off another person by doing something they dont approve of we should ban it. If you dont want to walk through a cloud of smoke, DONT WALK THROUGH THE FUCKING CLOUD OF SMOKE. Its not like you cant walk around without coughing and wheezing through the haze and smog created by cigarette smoke. You might get a whiff of it here or there but we also all live right next to a coal factory. The rights of people to not smell smoke do not fucking outweigh the rights of people that choose to smoke. That is not the way it works. Do you think that people in Wisconsin and other farming states think they should ban paper mills and large pig farms simply because they smell bad? Someone fucking shoot me, or better yet, shoot the fucking idiot that wrote that article.

Also, whoever writes the music review section, just go ahead and stick some pencils through your eardrums, maybe then you will be able to hear the music you are reviewing. After that, maybe you will revise the way you rank and review the music by, instead of your current system of 'drums, bass, guitar, vocals, and overall'. Way to be absolutely oblivious to what most of the music is really about.


I hate to post another thread about the utter crap they put in the school paper, but FUCK

I will have to agree with your utter opposition to the ban on smoking. The ONLY restrictions I could go along with is like a "10 foot from doors" or the like, and even that's pushing it (and no, I don't smoke, never have). Don't even read the music article......

i have to agree with the door comment, its annoying when the ONLY way into a building is through like 20 people smoking. as to an outright ban on smoking all over campus - i wouldn't mind because it doesn't affect me, but i think that the idea of it is stupid. the only thing i would ask is that smokers have the courtesy (and most do) to not blow smoke in people's faces as they pass.

Yeah, I hate that, walking through a tobacco bonfire after exiting a building. I don't think a ban on smoking would ever fly. I don't smoke, and I wonder if smokers would ever consider staying aside from doors so we don't -have- to smell it.

Seriously guys, its obviously a danger to smoke in public. I think we should ban it in the United States. Period. Lots of evidence shows that you have a chance to get cancer if people around you smoke. Quit being close minded and ban smoking!

It wouldn't really concern me if there were a ban on smoking on public property, but when it comes to private property, I think the owner(s) should have the final say. I don't smoke, but who am I to say that someone can't smoke in their own home. Who am I to say that a business owner can't allow a smoking section? If you don't like the business policies, don't go there... plain and simple.

I'm a non-smoker and I have asthma which makes being around people smoking a little more difficult. However, as nice as it seems to not have to deal with the "suffering" of second hand smoke, I think that complete public ban of smoking is a little too extreme. I would like if smokers wouldn't smoke right at the doorways to every building on campus, it kind of sucks having to walk through it. Also putting the suggested ban on smoking across America is ridiculous. While smoking can cause cancer and other diseases, killing an industry as large as the cigarette industry would be quite detrimental to our nation's economy. If you look back in history, that has been on of our main cash crops and is sold everywhere in the world. Also, banning smoking everywhere would also end up like banning drinking everywhere. All it is going to do is make some mobsters filthy stinking rich. So, at worst there should be designated areas for smoking where you are only allowed to smoke at these locations and no where else.

Id also like to point out that i dont smoke cigarettes. I smoke other things, that i cant smoke in public (a whole nother topic) which may be why renegade smoke does not bother me, but its difficult for me to see why anyone (excluding those with asthma and other respiratory problems) cant just ignore it.

Do people really hate smelling smoke that much? There is substantial evidence that suggests second hand smoke actually does nothing, so if that is your argument you will need some substantial counter evidence.

Also one more thing, the Food/Hirc committee that i am on has made a smoking survey for campus and you all should be recieving it in your emails within the next few days. Please take the time to fill it out because that information is sent to Tina and is very influential on decisions.

Show us, please.

Actually I would rather see actually statistically viable data that states second hand smoke does directly cause cancer.

i dont have ashma.. but i cant be around people who smoke for any length of time.. i have trouble breathing. and i really do not like the stinch of cig's... some pipes and cigars have a decent scent to em... but i still cant stand being anywhere near the smoke.

campus ban of smoking... no... moving the smoking sections away from the doors for buildings yes to some extent

Yeah we do, except the cigarette thingys are right by the door and it sucks when its raining, chilly winds, and other weather phenomenon. Most smokers I know like to walk and smoke between classes. Pretty soon people will be banned from smoking on Earth.

i bet you will get cancer from sitting next to a swampie before second hand smoke. the studies ive seen show that yes it has an effect predominantly among the very old and very young, other then that its just if you are already susceptible to respiratory problems. i do my best to be courteous when smoking on campus but some people dont understand that smoke goes with the wind and will pass me on the wrong side and then bitch about it.

i have to go read the article now

i will gladly support any ban on smoking. under any terms. you may have the right to smoke, but more important, everyone else has the right to be free of your putrid stench. no person should have to be accosted by your smoke directly, or by the nasty smell of even being near you. get some respect for life.

I don't like smoking either. However, your argument could (and probably has been) used for a number of things, from religions to political philosophies to races of men.

Banning smoking at doorways (where everyone has to walk through) and indoors (where there's not enough ventilation) seems reasonable to me. Banning smoking outside... while it's unpleasant to have to walk through a cloud of someones smoke, there's plenty of outside, and you're free to go a different way to your class. I don't see smoking outdoors as a significant infringement into other peoples space.