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Why don't I know about shit taking place on campus?
I am an idiot who doesn't pay attention. 12%  12%  [ 7 ]
I don't hang out with the cool crowd. 14%  14%  [ 8 ]
The events are poorly promoted. 72%  72%  [ 39 ]
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PostPosted: Mon 04-30-2007 9:32AM 
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Why is it I never hear about this crap until AFTER it happens? Am I not hanging out with the "cool" crowd, or is there a website to go to that tells about this shit, or what. I am always hearing about some campus thing that is open to the students AFTER it has already occurred, but VERY rarely do I hear about it in advance....

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What exactly are you referring too? Apparently I missed something too.


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You can read about it on the front page of the Miner.

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I'm guessing you're referring to this: http://themissouriminer.com/content/view/1091/49/
No idea why you wouldn't have known about it aside from the fact that the only PR for it was probably in the eConnection, which not everyone gets, and most people who get it don't read the whole thing. I honestly doubt it went out to the organization or department listservs since I didn't hear anything about it from any of those.

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I would read it more but for the fact that juicy event announcements are usually buried in random "Alpha Beta Kappa Gamma is holding a tea party for victims of Mucopolysaccharidosis this Tuesday" sort of messages I'm not so concerned about.


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I couldn't find it in my quick search of the previous eConnections, but it sounds familiar, like that I heard about it from somewhere else.


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That event was probably pretty thrown together. It's a lot easier to advertise for something when you have a month of warning rather than a week.

And if you want to know about something before it happens, come to SIG-Sec's showing of Sneakers tomorrow at 7 in CS209A.

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I heard about. I really didnt care about it though.

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While it sounds like this was poorly advertised, I have to ask why you would go to this? THis sounds like it was a last minute fluff deal. Anything put together that fast isn't going to be able to detail any significant changes, because, things don't work that fast. Anything those departments said is just a bunch of B.S. For example, there was a quote in the article from the counselor. She said events like this are rare when you consider the number of days that students attend school and the number of schools there are. NO SHIT THIS IS RARE! This was apparently the bloodiest school shooting in the history of the US.

If you were to graph all the incidents like the one here and the one at VA Tech for the last 75 years, I bet you would see a rising (perhaps exponential) curve. The issue is not to say it probably won't happen, it is to figure out why it is happening and prevent it, and if it does happen to respond better as a campus community and law enforcement community.

So yeah like I said, I'm sure they didn't say anything real there, just a bunch of stuff they pulled out of their ass.


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I would have enjoyed hearing the BS because I get a kick out of hearing the consoling bullshit these people spew at that worrying whiners. Don't get me wrong, this was a horrible tragic thing, but no one can guarantee that this will not happen here, or virtually anywhere else. With out pairing every student up with two or more highly trained, armed guards, you can't even reasonably keep this from happening. But there are so many whiners, that say "Oh, make me safe. Make my prof stand up to the armed intruder, he is my last line of defense (after all, no one should be expected to stand up for themselves...)"

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Here's what that meeting was leading up to:
Lauren Huchingson wrote:
UMR’s Crisis Communications Committee is working with UMR Student Council to solicit student feedback concerning the best methods to contact the UMR campus community in the case of an emergency event or critical situation.

It is important that every UMR student take the time to complete the following 2 question survey. As always, your voice is vital:

https://ccadm.umr.edu/auth-cgi-bin/cgiw ... vey=134001

For more information, please contact UMR Student Council at stuco@umr.edu.

We thank you for your time and continued feedback,

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this is why we have 911/4300! we shouldn't have to work out some other bullshit idea to do in a crisis! call the emergency number. then the people on that end should act. thats all there is to it.

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this is why we have 911/4300! we shouldn't have to work out some other bullshit idea to do in a crisis! call the emergency number. then the people on that end should act. thats all there is to it.

Its about how they should act to let you know there's an emergency, not how you should tell them.

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I never recieved that poll through email, it was a valid poll and useful for them if they decide to initiate an alert program for students. It would have been nice to have a centralized alert so people knew what to do on "Terrorist Tuesday".

The poll is still being collected too for anyone who didn't fill it out but wishes to.

Offtopic, however in the Missouri Miner article it says

"What I’m learning that is that you may think that e-mail is a good avenue of communication, but if nobody reads it or if the student is in a class where they don’t have access to a labtop or computer it loses its effectiveness,”

My question is what is a labtop, and why didn't spell check correct it?

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