What a good dvd burner that supports all formats go for these days, and who makes the best ones...?

plextor has a nice one.. if you don't mind a little slower, or the latest and greatest, you can pick up any of the new 4X dual-format burners... really it's pretty much like the CD-burners... any one will do the job... the new 4X generic are around $140 retail.. with a few specials or rebates those can easily go down to $80-$90

I've got a Sony DRU-510 which burns both +- at 4X, i think they have an 8X version too, Ive been very happy with mine and i will keep it until the dual layer burners come out so i can make 1:1 copies of shit too big for 4.7gb dvd-+Rs.

so basically with the burners now you can only copy the video...not the menus and extra stuff right...but the the video part is an exact copy, you dont have to reduce the quality?

well right now if you pop in a regular retail DVD to copy it's size is about 9GB
a DVD-R holds about 4.7GB
so no, the video quality is also not exact copy
but you should play around with some of the software
there are some that will cope the entire DVD with menus and anything you want to keep onto one DVD-R but it will degrade the quality, some will let you copy an entire DVD as it is (same quality) onto 2 DVD-R ...
you will have to wait for Dual-layer DVD writers to copy an entire DVD onto on DVD-R without too much loss of quality, and even then the dual-layer DVD-R won't hold as much as a retail DVD.....

Not all commercial DVD-Video disks are over the 4.7Gb size limmitation. Lots are though. Unless you would otherwise exceed the size limit there is no loss in quality.

yeah there are some websites that have a list of all the DVD-5 dvds.. those you can can copy exact copy

well that sucks...how bix are xbox games?

You don't have to worry about X-box games, they use the 4.7 gig disks. The biggest I've seen them is 3.7 gigs a game.