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i would love to get an aug
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I like my pre-ban 15 round Baretta mags for my 9mm. It doesn't feel right with only 10 rounds.
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Well for $3000 plus you can get one, now or in 3 months. The AWB isn't banning augs. There is an import ban that is keeping those out, along with some other really nice guns that are WAY over priced right now.
As for favorite AW, my AR right now is nice, but isn't an assault weapon. I'll be putting a collapsible stock on it because my dad HATES my short stock. I don't consider the sks an assualt weapon.. fixed mag and way too heavy.
Streetsweepers are not assault weapons, they are classified as a destructive device, so those too will not be legalized monday.
I will probably buy some pistol magazines if I can find those affordable. You never know when the next ban will be inacted, and I'd like to have some normal and hi-cap mags (normal cap is around 15 rounds, hi-cap to me is something that sticks out the bottom of the gun).
SKS all the way....i remember back in the day you could find them in pawn shops for like $120, now they are a bit harder to come by. Plus they are extremely tough...i wouldn't mind getting one but i have no money to spend on firearms....and i have enough as it is, lol.
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My uncle has haunted pawn shops all through Missouri and Oklahoma, and managed to find about thirty different 15+ round clips for his Glock and his wife's 'retta. Gotta go, though, with the SKS. How can you not love that gun?
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i'm wondering what will happen to the prices of magazines. i mean, will they start selling new hicap mags? will the prices of the "preban" mags drop from their artificially inflated price? or will the new hicap mags just be more expensive to match?
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Streetsweepers are not assault weapons, they are classified as a destructive device, so those too will not be legalized monday
These are under the jurisdiction of the "Assault Weapons Ban"
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Just in case you were unaware:
The so called "Assault Weapons Ban" was a ban on "semi automatic assault weapons"
These so called firearms function in the same manner as those that are not classified as "semi automatic assault weapons" they just have cosmetic differences. This ban was set as a trial and has had no effect in the number of "semi automatic assault weapons" used in violent crime. It was attached to a bill I believe was called the "Violent Crime Control Act of 1994" This is a common strategy legislators use to get unfavored legislation to pass because the President does not have the line-item veto. He must kill the whole bill or pass the whole bill.
Canada has a similar law that bans "scary" firearms. Look at their rates of violent crime, note the rate of home invasions relative to the U.S. and try to say that stricter firearms laws decrease crime.
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By the way, the only SKS that comes to mind that would be classified as a "semi automatic assault rifle" if converted to use detachable magazines* would be the Yugo due to its integral grenade launcher which would give the rifle two of the "scary features" and it could then be called a "semi automatic assault rifle" Any rifle that does not have the ability to accept detachable magazines does in no way fall under the juristiction of the "Assault weapons ban"
Note: the "Assault weapons ban" has nothing to do with fully automatic machine guns
*This is accomplished by removing the box magazine, because there are aftermarket magazines that are made to fit an SKS that was modified in this manner.
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Streetsweepers are not assault weapons, they are classified as a destructive device, so those too will not be legalized monday
These are under the jurisdiction of the "Assault Weapons Ban"
No, they do NOT. Because Janet Reno declared them destructive devices, they fall under the National Firearms Act of 1934 and thus are subject to a $200 tax just like machineguns and silencers.
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By the way, the only SKS that comes to mind that would be classified as a "semi automatic assault rifle" if converted to use detachable magazines*
That would be true, except the only reason you can get them in this country is because they are considered a Curio and Relic. When you change the gun from its original configuration, you run a risk of being arrested because it is no longer a curio and relic. The gun would have been banned under the clinton (? maybe bush senior) import ban. They would fall under the same jurisdiction as HK91's. The AWB sunsetting won't bring the price on those down because they still cannot be imported. IF HK builds a plant in the US they could build them and sell them, but they cannot import the guns from other places.[/quote]
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b) DEFINITION OF SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON.--Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
"(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means-- "(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms, known as -- "(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models); "(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; "(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); "(iv) Colt AR-15; "(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; "(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; "(vii) Steyr AUG; "(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and "(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; "(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of-- "(i) a folding or telescoping stock; "(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; "(iii) a bayonet mount; "(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and "(v) a grenade launcher; "(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of-- "(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; "(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; "(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned; "(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and "(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and "(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of-- "(i) a folding or telescoping stock; "(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
source: http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/ ... r4296.html
So you are saying that since 922r revolving cylinder shotguns have been declared destructive devices, right?
Also, would the sunsetting of the AWB have any effect on the import restrictions that were tightened as an "administrative action" under either Clinton or Bush Sr.?
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HK does have a plant in the US, by the way.
and california has banned "assault weapons" by the following criteria: a congressman (or woman) who knows nothing about guns went through gun catalogues and picked out ones that looked scary. among the banned weapons were such things as a bolt-action, single shot .410 shotgun.
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